Have you been friend zoned and want to date her, but don't know what to do?
Asking out a stranger is easy.
Ok, maybe not easy but if we’re talking about risk vs. reward, asking out a gorgeous woman you’ve never met before has literally no risk and plenty of reward.
At least, it's way easier than trying to get out of the friend zone by asking out a friend.
What’s the worst that can happen? Sure, you might get run over by a bus on the walk over to her. But chances are she’ll either say yes (awesome!) or no.
If she says no, no harm done. Just move on with your life and onto the next woman of your affection.
Now asking out a friend is where it gets tricky. You go from no risk, plenty of reward to plenty of reward, plenty of risk. That's why getting out of the friendzone is so hard.
If she says no, maybe you could lose your friend and possibly others in your social circle. Even if she says yes, it may not work out and again you’re risking quite a lot.
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Looking back, I’ve been on a hefty number of dates, many of which with people I was already friends with.
I’ve learned how to ask out someone you’re already close to and I’ve done it by failing - a lot!
Avoid my mistakes, mitigate the risk and ask out your crush in the best way possible.
First identify if this is really what you want.
While there are a number of stark differences, there are quite a few parallels between your relationship with a female friend and your relationship with a girlfriend. You enjoy their company, share jokes, have fun together.
It may be that crossing that line into an official relationship isn’t exactly what you want, it just seems that way because you’re both close to one another.
This is even more true when you haven’t dated anyone in a while, the lines between friend and partner start to blur.
Allow your mind to focus on someone new, if even then your mind starts to wander back to your friend, then we may be talking about the real deal here!
There’s one thing you don’t want to be doing - and that’s professing your love in a big romantic way. Chances are that’s not going to work, even if she likes you too.
The best way is to ease into the idea of you two being more than just friends.
Try subtle flirting, paying her a compliment. Make her aware that you’re looking for something a bit more serious, but don’t do it in a way that’ll scare her off.
I did say I’ve learned a lot from failing, but I learned about easing into a potential relationship with a friend from someone else’s mistake - thankfully!
A friend of mine had a massive crush on one of his female friends.
In his mind, the best way to get her affection was a big romantic gesture.
Despite our advice and pleas to take things casually, he decided to profess his love at her surprise birthday party.
No warm up, no subtle flirting beforehand, just straight from a normal relationship to ‘I’m crazy about you and I’m going to tell you in front of everyone you know’.
As you can imagine, this went poorly.
My friend’s crush ran away in embarrassment and my friend was left alone at a very awkward surprise party.
Not long after, it transpired that she had feelings for my friend all along, but it was the big, immediate gesture that dashed any hopes of that happening.
It can be difficult to change how we view people in our lives. If you’re in a relatively new friendship, it isn’t too difficult to make her view of you change into something more romantic.
The longer that friendship lasts however, and the longer she views you just as a friend, the harder it is to change that perception of you.
So start making your move as soon as you can.
You want her to naturally want you, not desperately try to persuade her to want you.
Step back once in a while and let some space grow between you, allow her to miss you a little, rather than you being there 24/7.
Be friendly but not a doormat, don’t be afraid to say no or to ask her to do what you want. Stay confident but not boastful or creepy, maybe tease her a little about how she actually likes you.
This piece of advice became very apparent with one female friend of mine.
We had been friends for years but for a few months we had been subtly flirting. Things were going well and I thought there was a shot of us becoming more than friends. However, things never really progressed. We’d flirt, have fun, but nothing more.
I thought the answer was to turn up the dial, flirt even more, see her even more. Do anything to progress what we had going. But still, nothing ever changed.
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Looking back, it’s clear to see how desperate I came off. In trying to find as many opportunities to see and flirt with her, things got a little weird.
At parties, she’d be someone I spend most the night with - even if I was gatecrashing her and her friends.
If I randomly bumped into her (we did go to the same college), I’d see that as an opportunity to talk to her for ages, keep the conversation going as I thought that’d help progress our possible relationship.
It wasn’t until I stepped back did things finally start to work.
I’d pretty much given up and after giving her a little space, she started to chase me instead of me chasing her. I’d flirt but tried not to appear invested, I’d go to parties she was at and wait for her to approach me.
By giving her that space, not only could I clearly see she wanted something more, but she started to miss our time together. From there, things progressed rapidly.
All of these changes of how she views you are necessary for getting out of the friendzone.
You can tell if she actually wants to take this to the next level by how receptive she is to the above. Is she showing a desire to get closer to you? Is she responding to your flirting?
Being her friend means you have an upper hand, you already know her and her typical behaviour. You should be able to judge how receptive she is to your change in attitude.
This is where many guys, me included, get things wrong.
Moving things to the next level isn’t just about what you do, it’s also about what she does.
Now, these will be different for each potential partner, but some giveaway behaviours I’ve observed that you should look out for are:
There’s no way to shoot the gun without pulling the trigger.
The above points will have helped change her perspective of you. While her change in behaviour towards you is what gives you the confidence to know whether or not she feels the same way.
Keep that air of confidence you’ve created.
Maybe try a subtle ‘hey, you know I have feelings for you right?’ or keeping with the flirty theme try ‘You totally have a thing for me, who’s saying I don’t have a thing for you too?’
Again, if she’s receptive, continue with it and ask her out a date.
Don’t suggest an activity you could easily do as friends, you still want to continue that change in perspective.
Try something more romantic. Not something like going shopping or staying in to watch a movie!
You’ll hear a lot of people say if you’re asking out a friend, timing is the most important thing.
For me, the idea that there’s a good time makes it easier to chicken out.
Unless something’s happened that would make asking her out a stupid idea (a recent big breakup, a family member dying) then just do it.
There won’t be a big ‘now’s the time’ beacon, but it won’t feel rushed or out of nowhere.
This is the biggest fear that stops guys from asking a female friend out, but the truth is it’s more of a one-sided fear.
Do you honestly think you’ll be the first friend of hers that actually wants to date her?
If it doesn’t work out, it only makes things awkward or ruins the relationship if you let it.
This is more weird for you than it is for her, so accept it and move on.
If you’re ok with going back to just friends, then simply go back to how you used to be and very quickly things will be back to normal.
If your feelings are too strong to go back to being friends, you’ve got your answer, so it may be time to walk away.
Either way chances are she has quite a lot of male friends who secretly want to take things to the next level too.
But whether or not it worked out, well done to you, you actually had the balls to do something about it!
The advice of Kevin, member of cougar dating site Toyboy Warehouse and self-confessed serial dater. Written By Lucy Jones: Community Manager for cougar dating site Toyboy Warehouse and resident dating expert at Toyboy Warehouse Blog.